I've been looking for a firm mattress and if you're like me and like FIRM and separate coils in your mattress this is a great deal.

I have a platform bed - which has now paid for itself in the savings I have made by not needing to buy box frame!

Rooms to Go have next day delivery, best I could find in the mattress stores was at least 2 t0 3 hundred bucks more and with a 5 to 10 day wait for delivery...

Simmons Beautyrest World Class
Rooms to go linky

• 980 Coil Density Individually Pocketed Coils provide additional support to reduce pressure points and support your natural shape, Level 2 (Better) motion separation to reduce sleep disturbance caused by partner tossing and turning, and long lasting durability.
• Firmer gauge wire in the coils and a tight top (non pillow top) design provide that “Firm” solid feel.
• A layer of Visco Elastic Memory Foam provides support and pressure relief.
• 360° Foam Encased Edge Support for the best edge to edge sleep surface and seating edge.
• The Triton foundation reduces motion across the mattress and provides unparalleled durability
Notes:
• 10 year non-prorated warranty
• Mattress height 12 inches.

I ignored all the web reviews that said how horrible the "Simmons Beautyrest World Class" mattress (and mattress company) is, and bought one anyway. Delivered on Jan 1st this year. (Yep, New Years Day, 6am, I guessed they thought we might ignore stuff with a bad hangover).

We actually had the first one delivered a couple days prior, but it had some black marks on it (voids warranty), and a spring was sticking out the side, so we rejected it. Next one had no marks and no springs sticky out. During inspection, the delivery people said not to expect much, since they all are mass produced without much quality control after assembly, and all will have some flaws.

It was nice to sleep on the first couple weeks.

Reviews all over the net were 100% accurate.
My 15 year old mattress was much better than this pile.
Warranty is totally useless.
Read about what you must do, and how much it must sag in one spot to get warranty service.

Google this mattress for more horror stories from others that were stuck with this garbage.

But, read reviews of other mattresses and you will see similar complaints about junk. That was my issue after spending a couple days researching what was the right mattress to buy. How can every mattress be junk from every mattress company? So I took a chance, and made the mistake of buying a Simmons Beautyrest World Class. Sorry, I can not recommend any other that is better. Maybe look in someones trash? At least you have a good chance of getting a better one than this.

Also, the foam encasement is only 1 inch thick, Sealy's is 3 inches thick. And Simmons is nowhere near as firm around the edges. They measure the firmness of foams in ILD. Ask Simmons what the ILD is....you'll be surprised. Also, ask them the density of the "memory foam"

Thanks for advice. Need a new mattress but I've no idea how to pick a good one. At least I now know what to avoid.

mattressman said:Simmons is worthless. They do not double-temper their steel, meaning it has no memory to keep its original position. You do not want this bed. Also, note that it says 900 coil DENSITY....That does not mean it has 900+ coils, far far less. Sealy Posturepedic is the way to go.What on god's green earth are you talking about? Tempering the steel has NOTHING to do with the steel's ability to keep its original position.

Different manufacturers use different design and construction methods in their mattresses. As far as consumers are concerned, we should primarily care about comfort and value, which will always be subjective and vary person to person.

Personally, we currently own a top of the line Stearns & Foster mattress set (Sealy owns Stearns & Foster, which is a luxury mattress manufacturer), which we've had to replace twice in the last 5 years due to body indentations exceeding 1.5" (which is what's required by both Sealy and Simmons to authorize a warranty exchange). Finally, we got pretty tired of it and decided to purchase a new mattress. We've tried everything from Sealy Posturepedic, the Hotel Collection (a Stearns & Foster mattress), Serta to the ultra expensive latex beds, the DUX Bed for $6K, Kluft mattresses for $5-$7K and Shifman mattresses for $4K-$5K. Out of all these mattresses for us the best combination of comfort and value will actually be a Simmons WorldClass cushion firm mattress with 3" memory foam encasement, which we are about to buy. As for the warranty coverage, both Sealy and Simmons provide a 10 year non-prorated warranty and authorize replacement for indentations of 1.5". As you would expect, both Sealy and Simmons have a TON of posts out there from people complaining about mattress issues -- that's to be expected in the mattress industry.

As always, YMMV, but please don't post these utterly false statements that one mattress maker is superior to the other one.

P.S.
By the way, here is how another retailer responded to a very similar question:

Q: I've read that Simmons coils do not use tempered steel and will therefore deform more quickly than brands using tempered steel coils.

A: Simmons coil is a "high carbon" steel and does not need to be tempered. It has excellent memory and will continue to return to its original height after years of use. Also, the Beautyrest pocketed coil is pre-compressed, not a static coil like a regular innerspring unit. Carbon steel is less brittle than tempered steel, helping the Original Beautyrest Pocketed Coil spring stay resilient for the life of the mattress. But, that's not all: Beautyrest® mat­tresses use up to twice as much steel per coil as what is found in competitive products. Back to pre-compression, each Beautyrest pocketed coil is pre-compressed 1 1/ 2" before being placed in the pocketing mate­rial so when the pocket is opened, the coil springs out. This is an example of how the coil is fighting to stay uncompressed so it fill in those places where pressure is missing under you lumbar area.

Here is a link. Yes, the retailer giving the reponse above is not exactly impartial and neither is mattressman, who has previously posted that he's in the mattress business. Independent tests, such as those done by Consumer Reports and many others, have never shown any concrete advantage to various mattress designs out there and have all uniformly advised people to purchase mattresses based on their comfort preferences and to ignore the arguments that one design is better than the other one.

For those looking for an extra firm Simmons WorldClass mattress set, this is an EXCELLENT deal. It looks like it is the same mattress as this Simmons WorldClass Angelique Extra Firm mattress sold at Macy's for $1,597 with free delivery and set up. Rooms to Go would charge a $40 delivery charge and $977 for a complete set, for the grand total of $1,016.99, which is some $580 cheaper than Macy's (Macy's is one of the largest mattress retailers)

I was told that the warranty will be voided if you do not buy the set (with the box). It seems that the mattress company will do anything to deny your warranty. Mattress warranty is a joke.

f2000sa said:I was told that the warranty will be voided if you do not buy the set (with the box). It seems that the mattress company will do anything to deny your warranty. Mattress warranty is a joke.Don't listen to rumors and do your own research. Simmons' warranty information can be found here. As Simmons' warranty page explains, you will lose your warranty coverage if your mattress is "not used with a proper foundation," which is defined as "(i) Simmons foundation or a supportive, rigid non-yielding foundation. Queen, Olympic® queen, and king size must have sufficient center support, or (ii) The appropriate Simmons’ adjustable foundation" (underlining is mine).

Here is Stearns & Foster's warranty info. As you can see, it is almost identical to that if Simmons. Specifically, here is what it says about the foundation: "Your mattress must be continuously supported by a matching boxspring, or equivalent, with an appropriate frame. The frame should include a rigid center support with at least 5 hardwood cross slats for queen and king sets. A rigid center support is equal to a support that extends from the frame to the ground." Sealy's warranty looks identical to that of Stearns & Foster, which is not surprising since Sealy owns them.

The Canberra is $799. It is 15.5 inch, and seems to be good deal also. Does this compare with the W Bed Plush

Canberra

geo123 said: Out of all these mattresses for us the best combination of comfort and value will actually be a Simmons WorldClass cushion firm mattress with 3" memory foam encasement, which we are about to buy. ...

As always, YMMV, but please don't post these utterly false statements that one mattress maker is superior to the other one.

Thanks for all the comments. It should help others.

However, I see you are "about to buy". I must have missed the part that said you already owned one of these for several months, and have first hand knowledge. I too thought it was great...for a few weeks. It was AMAZING in the showroom!!!! Nothing like after owning one 3 weeks later, and now 11 months later. Lot's of aspirin will help your backaches.